Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/13/2003 02:20 PM Senate L&C

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                   HB 234-BREWPUBS; ABC BOARD                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE announced HB 234 to be up for consideration.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KEITH  HILLIARD,  staff  to  Representative  Lesil  McGuire,                                                               
sponsor of HB  234, said it does basically three  things and that                                                               
there was a blank CS before the committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SEEKINS  moved to adopt  SCSCSHB234 (L&C), version  B, as                                                               
the  working document.  There were  no objections  and it  was so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HILLIARD  explained that the  committee substitute  they just                                                               
adopted  establishes  that  the Alcohol  Beverage  Control  (ABC)                                                               
Board under  the Department of Public  Safety for administration.                                                               
The department  felt that  the investigative  responsibilities of                                                               
the ABC Board needed to be  under their direction rather than the                                                               
Department of Revenue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Second, it addresses  current inconsistencies in Alaska                                                                    
     statute found  in AS 04.111.135(d) regarding  the sales                                                                    
     of  beer by  brewpubs in  quantities of  not more  than                                                                    
     five gallons per day, so-called growlers.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Under  current statutory  language,  sales of  growlers                                                                    
     are limited  to brewpubs  that brew  their beer  on the                                                                    
     premises, but  this restriction  unfairly disadvantages                                                                    
     Alaskan brewpub  operators who  may brew  their product                                                                    
     in  one  location  of  the state  and  dispense  it  at                                                                    
     another.  So,  we're  going to  remove  that  arbitrary                                                                    
     restriction. Lastly, SCSCSHB  234(L&C) extends the life                                                                    
     to  the Alcoholic  Beverage Control  Board to  June 30,                                                                    
     2007.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PAT   DAVIDSON,  Legislative  Auditor,  said   their  report                                                               
contained  eight  recommendations  and   two  of  them  were  for                                                               
legislative changes; five were  operational improvements; one was                                                               
to the  Governor's Office recommending  that they move  faster in                                                               
keeping the  board filled. There  was general concurrence  by the                                                               
ABC staff with the recommended operational improvements.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DAVIDSON said  she recommended  a three-year  rather than  a                                                               
four-year extension  that would  provide for timely  follow-up of                                                               
issues  identified  during  the  course of  the  audit.  The  two                                                               
statutory  recommendations  are  first  to  have  the  ABC  Board                                                               
determine  the need  to  get  investigative responsibilities  for                                                               
gambling  and   prostitution.  While  the  idea   that  when  the                                                               
investigators are in the bars,  they be looking for other illegal                                                               
activity  is appealing  from  a  synergistic standpoint,  anytime                                                               
there is an  investigation, it takes time and  energy. Right now,                                                               
there  was  more  than  enough work  for  the  ABC  investigators                                                               
focusing  on  issues  critical   to  the  state  for  controlling                                                               
alcohol.  Investigating  prostitution  and gambling  expands  the                                                               
scope of  the work assigned  to the ABC investigators,  but there                                                               
was  no additional  funding for  additional investigators  and no                                                               
more  time  to do  their  job.  The  audit recommended  that  the                                                               
legislature refocus  any violations  on the  alcohol laws  of the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The second recommendation was to  consider whether or not the ABC                                                               
Board should  be given the  authority to do  summary suspensions.                                                               
Those are  powers that are allowed  on a great many  boards, like                                                               
occupational boards.  In recommending  that, she  recognizes that                                                               
there needs  to be a  clear presence  of an emergency,  because a                                                               
summary suspension has significant  economic impact on the owners                                                               
and employees  of the establishment. Careful  consideration would                                                               
have to be given to what  constituted the emergency and be put in                                                               
regulation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  if she  had  seen the  letter from  Homer                                                               
Brewing Company.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. DAVIDSON answered that she had not.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS said  his concern  was  over verbiage  regarding                                                               
brewpubs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE commented that the turf battles would continue on.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MATT JONES, Moose's Tooth  in Anchorage, said this bill seeks                                                               
to amend  a drafting  oversight that  was made  in the  1999 bill                                                               
that  singled  them out  as  the  one  brewpub that  cannot  sell                                                               
growlers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     All other  brewpubs are allowed  to sell  growlers, but                                                                    
     because  our brewing  facility is  not co-located  with                                                                    
     our restaurant  facility and the  language of  the 1999                                                                    
     bill said that  growlers had to be sold  where the beer                                                                    
     is manufactured...                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     All other  brewpubs that are  covered under  a separate                                                                    
     section  were allowed  to sell  their growlers  where a                                                                    
     customer was  present on the  licensed premises  in the                                                                    
     retail area.  We have been  the one brewpub  that can't                                                                    
     sell their growlers  to a person who is  present at the                                                                    
     restaurant...                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Representative  Rokeberg   said  this  was   never  the                                                                    
     intended consequence  when he drafted  this legislation                                                                    
     back in 1999.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR  STEVENS said  he  was  sure Mr.  Jones  didn't have  the                                                               
letter from Homer Brewing that  said this legislation would widen                                                               
the  gap  between brewpub  licensees  and  brewery licensees  and                                                               
would hurt present  and future breweries. He asked if  he had any                                                               
comments on that issue.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. JONES responded  said he didn't think  this legislation would                                                               
change  the  position between  brewpubs  and  breweries. "All  it                                                               
would do is  put us back in  having the same bundle  of rights as                                                               
all other brewpubs currently have..."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE asked  if there was a maximum gallonage  he could use                                                               
off premise.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JONES replied yes, that they  have a total production cap and                                                               
a [indisc.] cap.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE asked if that cap wouldn't exist for a brewery.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JONES replied there is no cap for a brewery.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SEEKINS moved to pass  SCS CSHB 234(L&C), version B, from                                                               
committee    with   attached    fiscal   note    and   individual                                                               
recommendations.  SENATORS DAVIS,  FRENCH,  SEEKINS, STEVENS  and                                                               
BUNDE voted yea and the motion carried.                                                                                         

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